Talk:Adam's Bridge
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This question arises frequently on the talk page concerning Adam's Bridge. To view an explanation of the answer, click the [show] link to the right of the question. Q1: Why is the article titled Adam's Bridge instead of Rama Setu, Rama's Bridge, Shree Ramsetu, Ram Setu or something else?
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For the origins of different names, see the article. English Wikipedia's policy and convention (see WP:Article titles and WP:Naming conventions (geographic names) ) is that the title of an article should be the modern name generally used in English-language reliable sources, such as (in this case) scholarly works on geography, history and religion. Several discussions requesting the retitling of the article have been held since 2011, and the Wikipedia community's consensus has been that Adam's Bridge is the proper title per Wikipedia policy. There is currently a WP:MORATORIUM on such discussions, which ends 16 September, 2025. Q2: Why was my request or comment removed?
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[edit]This question arises frequently on the talk page concerning Adam's Bridge.
- Why is the article titled Adam's Bridge instead of Rama Setu, Rama's Bridge, Shree Ramsetu, Ram Setu or something else?
For the origins of different names, see the Adam's Bridge § Etymology.
English Wikipedia's policy on article titles and guideline on naming conventions require that the title of an article be the modern name generally used in English-language reliable sources, such as (in this case) scholarly works on geography, history, and religion. Several discussions requesting the retitling of the article have been held since 2011, and the Wikipedia community's consensus has been that Adam's Bridge is the proper title in accordance with Wikipedia policy and guidelines. There is currently a WP:MORATORIUM on such discussions, which ends 16 September, 2025.
- Why was my request or comment removed?
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Renaming Ramsetu to Ramsetu
[edit]There has been many discussion on how people outside India knows this as Adam's Bridge and not RamSetu. And many discussions diverted to who built it, authenticity of Ramayana etc.
Such diversion is hurting the actual intent of the move request and hurting the core concept of wikipedia, to provide accurate information. From oldest scripture of India this structure is known as Rama-Setu, Ramsetu and so an so. So the world need to know what it is by its original name. Because some English scholars preferred to call it Adam's Bridge, and that name was told to everyone else by Wikipedia itself, doesn't change the fact that historically it has been known as Rama-Setu and everyone in India only know that name. Today my friend from US asked me about "Adam's Bridge" and I had no idea. Then I came to know that people are being told that it is called Adam's bridge. The world need to be told what is the original name of the structure as per local history and scriptures.
Imagine a Chinese scholar publish the name "Jùshí zhèn" for Stonehenge and it becomes common name for it. Will Wikipedia tell that outside of England, everyone calls it "Jùshí zhèn" hence everyone must be told that name only?
Here the discussion should not be around who built it. Who named it to what and when. Fact must be established on the following points: - What is the name Indians use for the structure - What is the oldest available scripture that names this structure - How long the name has been used continuously in India, was there a discontinuity?
The decision need to taken here is: - Does Wikipedia want the world to know a structure by its original name? OR - Does Wikipedia want to propagate the name preferred by a few biased foreign scholars?
If the name "Adam's Bridge" has been told to the rest of the world by some article and to a larger extent Wikipedia has been a part of it propagating the wrong name; that doesn't means that mistake should not be correct.
Lets start critically review the articles that refer this structure by an alien name and their sources and origin of the name. Sudhir.khamari (talk) 06:55, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- See the FAQ, and read the article. We discuss both names in the article. Meters (talk) 07:08, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- There is a moratorium on discussions about renaming this article. The local name is described in this article. If you want to work to change policy that articles are titled based on the most common name in English language reliable sources, that's not done on this page. That would also be a massive undertaking affecting hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of articles. 331dot (talk) 07:30, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Sudhir.khamari: If you had actually read this article beyond just the title, you would not have written that screed. ~Anachronist (talk) 00:27, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 December 2024
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In the section on the Sethusamudram Shipping Canal Project, the diagram is captioned as showing 5 alternative routes to the one that cuts through the bridge. Only 4 of the routes are alternatives, the fifth is the route that does cut through. 82.4.46.92 (talk) 04:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
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